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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:10:00 -
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With regards STK...
They told ASCN they had spent weeks setting themselves in place for their attack on Fountain.
Then they got killzored in y-2 the very same week they said that.
Then they said they would be pulling back to assist with AZN.
Then the very same week we killzored azn.
Then they said... actually I have no clue what they said but I'm sure it was something along the lines of "eeek, ruuuuuun".
Which they did!
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains so um whos running the same plexes these days have they been turned over to bob alts- bob friendly alts or have other hostile parties moved in to take up the slack and hte ISK
How much is exploration influencing usage of these plexes as well ?
go away Mrs Overlord, you ain't getting nothing from us.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "WE have never worked with m0o, we will never work with m0o"!
/me shakes fist
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/01/2007 11:42:44
Originally by: Helen So yeah DB when you lose your outposts and you have no alliance support you have to relocate but I'm pretty sure none of us said eeek, ruuuun because if we said that sort of thing we probably would never have tried to defend AZN after all. You also didn't get AZN for xmas but I'm sure your not too sad about that.
Hey, I did say I had no clue what you said and was guessing (also I was very drunk when I wrote that post last night) ;p
I was sad that I didn't get AZN for xmas because it meant I missed the end of ASCN coz I was on holiday :,<
STK had a bit of a plan to get stuff done in Fountain but you made some key mistakes in achieving it.
Firstly, anything you took in Fountain, we would have ignored until we could take it back.
At no point would it have slowed down our invasion of Feth, instead it actually gave our attack more venom because as players we had lots of stuff to do. The way we set up RKK was so that we could deal with an attack on multiple regions and truth be told, I actually prefer to be under attack constantly all over the place rather than sieging in one place.
This meant that although STK had heady goals to start with, nothing that occurred in Fountain would have affected us at all. We can happily see the long term plan. What happens if we lose a station for 2 weeks? Absolutely nothing.
PNQ should have shown you the problem with attacking fountain. We ignored it because we knew you could not hold it.
If you are in a war, the last thing you do is stretch your logistical line so far that it's impossible to get new ships.
Secondly, when STK did stay in fountain, I said very quickly that we only needed to kill STK once. I was pretty sure that if you lost your dread fleet that you would pull out regardless of what was happening elsewhere because if you lot them once, you would know that you could lose them again.
I know that dreads are easy to replace in today's game but that doesn't mean that people are happy to do it everyday for no real gain.
Thirdly, we have experience of what you were doing from before. During the GNW, while the rest of PA were fighting on the frontlines in BKG, two corps - CE and KIA, who the PA looked to be some of their best fighters, were off fighting c0d and Fade Union. They were getting loads of kills against the npc'ers and miners of those alliances but this did nothing but cause internal strife within the PA. We were certain this would start to happen with STK as well... and it did. The general populace of ASCN started questioning what STK was actually achieving in Fountain. Although you answered well, you merely delayed the inevitable.
I'm afraid I'm not going to sit and tell you what you should have done, that is for you to try and work out.
Truth be told, STK had some spunk but without the experience, backing and a few other things that I won't mention, you never had a chance.
Either way, at least you aren't bitter like various other corp leaders who we have fought against.
Take STK from here and do something fun with it.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard Helen, honestly mate, don't bother. Sense and reason aren't welcome in here.
I take it you didnt actually bother to read my post then 
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: welsh wizard Helen, honestly mate, don't bother. Sense and reason aren't welcome in here.
I take it you didnt actually bother to read my post then 
dbp
Your post was great, I'm referring to the usual suspects.
Let you off then 
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nomore Telindus
Originally by: Helen Our return meant a 12 dread attack on a Evol? pos in RIT while bubbles were placed along the AZN>RIT route this tactic slowed down the angry BoB gang for awhile sadly the guys doing it logged off and in that event the dreads had to come out of siege mode to get away, another 5mins and that pos would of been in reinforced.
For the record: I made the bubbles and we didn't logged off. The BoB gang killed our little force at the gate, that is why we disappeared from the local. 
Actually, if the 100 man fleet that ran to AZN had just thrown theirselves infront of us, that would have given you the time to actually put the pos into reinforced.
We were actually split up between that fleet but we outmanouvered them, got together then they legged it back to AZN letting us steamroll down to the pos.
Nothing is more exciting than being in a mob of BoB chasing down a target :D
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.10 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Frogzuk
BOB could then have been hit from not 1 but 2 fronts with D2 / IRON / RAZOR and friends from the north hitting them from beyond cloud ring and V / LV / RA / GOONS / IMP joining sides with ASCN to hit them from Curse. Personally i dont think BOB would had sustained that kind of onslaught.
Then once the fighting had finish then everyone could go back to bashing each other as they usually do ! Why this didnt happen is simple too many egos and too much pride.
Even if we lost every single pos, every single outpost, every single capital ship... what do you think would happen next?
Our corporation's name is Reikoku. It means "Relentless".
We didn't get to the stage we are now, fighting alongside the best pvp corporations in the game by giving up at the first signs of trouble.
As a wise man once said: You come from nothing, you go back to nothing. What you lost? NOTHING.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.10 14:05:00 -
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The final Capital Ship Killcount based on the ASCN alliance as defined by the eve database was as follows:
Kills 1 Titan 19 Dreadnoughts 17 Carriers
Losses 1 Carrier
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.11 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Grainsalt This may be me just picking up on a rumour, but RE Teamspeak discipline, I heard that Molle/Shrike plays whale song down the TS... Surely not!
Worse, he plays Abba.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.11 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 11/01/2007 15:44:58
Originally by: Ian Novarider >>> Worse, he plays Abba. >>>
MAN, thats just MEAN !
What did he play ? "The winner takes it all" ?!
Have fun
Ian
Lots of abba, however, after we won the first caldari championships that was indeed the tune we requested and was then played on the (then) everadio commentary.
I can't listen to that song now without a small tear coming to my eye and thinking of Alasse's eagle holding on and somehow managing to take down the other two ships.
*sigh* memories!
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.11 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ian Novarider Interesting question :
Is an industrialist alliance more alt heavy than a PvP alliance or is it vice versa ?
Have fun
Ian
Check out the recent demographic post I made for an idea of how many alts we have: Demographics post
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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